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#1 TAKOM 2030 V-2/A-4 Rocket, Meillerwagen & Hanomag SS-100 Building review von the rocketman 10.01.2017 13:45

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Well the box is not in the European shops, at the moment first info was half January and the last what I did hear is begin of February .
But from a American relation I already have pictures of the sprue's and the drawings for the Meillerwagen and the A-4.
My first impression is that what I see is OK, this model is not over the top when we look at the number of parts.
But the price is reasonable and leaves some money to spent on after-market material, like othere tyres / wheels for the Hanomag SS-100 they are now of after war French origine.
Looking at the model-parts and the drawing it is very clear that TAKOM did a survey on the British Cosford Meillerwagen and that is a pity.
I had silent hopes that they had used the far more complete Meillerwagen from the Australian War Museum.
That makes it necessary to do a good studies on the Meillerwagen to see what is missing on the model to make it a operational Meillerwagen.

After investigation of the things that has to be made in scratch material, I will start building this trailer .
It will be not my first Meillerwagen the first was a nice little set of a Meillerwagen with V-2 from FALLER in the late 1950's
As first entry in this new item the pictures of the Meillerwagen sprue's:






As power source for the oil-pump there are two possibility's a electro motor or the VW stationary engine box this is were I would like more detail
like the door's open and the VW engine in vision.

For this build I have in mind a launching site of the SS-500 werfer batterie at the Eelerberg near Hellendoorn in winter 1944/45.
Were they did firings at Antwerpen and the bridge at Remagen.

And for the rest you and me have to wait until the box is on the workbench.

Gruss

Bert

#2 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von the rocketman 05.02.2017 16:00

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Well I,m still waiting for my Meillerwagen now it seems to be that it is waiting on the German customs to set it free for sending this nice box to me.
Can't wait to start with this project.
In the meanwhile there is a building proces on YouTube to look at

Guys,
here is the model in its building process

part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQcQMkpmlx0

part2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoNsPNp0d3o

Enjoy

Bert

#3 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von the rocketman 18.02.2017 11:06

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Good-day you all,

Well my first A-4 and a Meiller set did arrive at my home finally, and my first impression is looks good.
Started with studying the drawing from the rocket and the tisch, it is a very clear drawing of the building stages

As first I will build a A-4 because this one is needed for a other V-2 project that I'm working on.
When looking at the sprue of the singele A-4 you will find a lot of extra parts, these are for a Meillerwagen and they can go to the surplus box

Starting with the A-4 and tisch I did not find any sinkhole on the visible parts of the rocket a big + for Takom
All parts on the Sprue are looking good with a very minor flash, the smaller parts of the A-4 and table are fitting very well together.
But the construction of the rocket hull parts and wings will give some problems.
You have to glue them together with almost no pin and hole fittings on these parts, my solution is to take a strip of Evergreen ( I did use Evergreen 145 ) and cut it in to smaller strips round 8mm and glue them in both hull parts, these will guild the parts on there proper position.
Fit the wings before glueing, and use sanding-paper to get the proper fitting.
The exhaust rudders are in two separate parts the rudder holder B1 and the graphite rudder B4.
*TIP Do not install the graphite rudders when the rocket is to be in a transport situation like on the Meillerwagen or on the Vidal transporter.
The graphite rudders are installed just before launching of the Rocket

For this moment I don't see really large mistakes on the rocket just some minor things that only a specialist will notice.

But then we gone talk about the launching table, this is the first time you can see that TAKOM did not make a study of this project and that is a pitty.
They did a good survey on a A-4 and Meillerwagen in the Cosford Museum, this museum has one of the remaining three Meillerwagens in the world, but also a basic table with dolly.
And the problem is in this basic, the table is naked all the special parts needed for launching a A-4 rocket are missing.
Parts like the Cable-mast holder, the five-fold coupling the A-stoff coupling and the valvebox and a lot of small parts.
So we get a basic launch table without it's transport dolly, we will discusse this basic also when we gone build the Meillerwagen.

As final conclusion you get a good model with a good price / quality , this reminds me on the time the Dragon A-4 came on the marked for a price of 85 Dutch Guilders.
Be care fully with sanding on this models because then you will loose the very fine and correct hull spot-welding details

And fore these missing parts well maybe a after-marked firm will supply us with them.
For this moment there are two firms that have announced that they will bring out wheel-sets for the Hanomag SS-100.

This is it, for the moment will try to make some pictures of this part of the build this evening.

Greetings to you all

#4 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von the rocketman 19.02.2017 10:51

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Small update on the Hanomag wheelset's
http://www.defmodel.com
DW30041 WW2 German Hanomag SS100 Wheel set ( for TAKOM 1/35) release soon $24
http://www.hussarproductions.com aangekondigd
http://www.azimutproductions.com/ possible the old wheel-set of there Resin Hanomag


Gruss Bert

#5 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von the rocketman 19.02.2017 21:27

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Hi
A small photo update

The first project with a Takom V-2 made with U-models A-4 Dolly's and the Jung locomotive

My way to get a better fit of the "halbschalle"

Putty on the line between body and wing

After sanding these parts fit perfect

TIP this is how it has to be just one flat surface and no step.Sorry have to make a correction on this the flat surface is is for the early types of the rocket.
The one we build is a later operational version did use the wrong picture, but the step is now to high it must lay just under the centre of the rudder axle.

Gruss

Bert

#6 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von Panzerroland 19.02.2017 23:05

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Rocketman builds a rocket, what else?

Hallo Bert,

schöne Fortschritte! Baust du mehrere A4? Bahntransport und Straßentransport?

Gruß
Roland

#7 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von the rocketman 04.03.2017 20:48

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Roland,

My plan is to build 3 A-4 in diferend settings one on the Meiller, one on the smallspur and on fallen in Allied hands.

At the moment I'm still researching the Meillerwagen to see what is needed to make as scratch build parts.
And that needs a lot of time searching trough German documents on this subject.

Gruss

Bert

#8 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von the rocketman 04.03.2017 21:02

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For those who are building the Takom set or just the Hanomag here a link to a walkaround of this vehicle.
Be aware this is a after war build Hanomag so there are diferences with the war build Hanomag's
Takom did fit this model with the same tyres as the SAMUR museum Hanomag after war French production with French lettering.

http://ffsmc.fr/index.php?/category/6

Also a warning about the front axle spring packet, you can't see it but these springs are not equal in shape.
You have to place them with the fitting of the axle in the forward position.
other wise the tyre will run against the wheel well because there is a difference in length of approx 1mm.

Greetings Bert

#9 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von Stefan 05.03.2017 05:34

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@the rocketman

first thanks a lot for the walkaround. Last week I received the kit, and must say great stuff. I was a Little pessimistic about the Hanomag, it looked like a little less Quality at some Reviews, but in Reality it is ok. At the Moment i haven´t no Idea how to use the SS-100 Kit. At all, I would wait until there are some aftermarket wheels for SS-100 and also for the Meillerwagen are available.
This is the only Point for Critics in my eyes, the Rubber Tyres.

I will have a look on your Report here, cause i think, you are always very good informed, so hopefully i will find some Ideas to improve the Meilerwagen. Maybe there are some Cables an anything like this to fix. The Rocket it self should be no Problem, only the little use of Putty at the Wings, this Buildt should not take longer than one Hour. (I hope)

What I´m looking for are some Pictures of the Trailer for the Starting Platform, could find just one drawing of it at the net, do you know where could i find some more?

#10 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von the rocketman 05.03.2017 14:09

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Stefan,

Your welkom..
I will use the DMMB forum for the review and building of the Meiller/A-4 set.
I think the set is good when you look at the price, I had expected a price around 140 € but with the quality of Dragon /Merit, Takom made this kit with less small parts and you see it back in the price.
And it had to be ready before Christmas 2016 so they had no time to do all the extra parts that were advised to them.
Just the cable mast and the engine box of the VW static engine are extra parts made on advise.
Well I don't have so much problems about the rubber tyres IF the were correct, as far as I now there are new wheels in the pipeline from 2 after-market firm's.

Give you the advise to do some searches on the BUNDES ARCHIVE they have a lot of Peenemunde pictures to down load for free.

http://www.bild.bundesarchiv.de/archives/barchpic/search/_1319119325/?search[action][show_form]=1

A other very interesting download is the "Report on Operation Backfire" see the site of Tracy Dungan V2 rocket.com in the part on Backfire you find a link for this big file
It is a description of the operation from start until the end. and gives in detail info on the Rocket and it's vehicles.


Zitat
Maybe there are some Cables an anything like this to fix.

the list is more than some cables !!!

Gruss

Bert

#11 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von the rocketman 11.03.2017 20:57

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Did finish the tail section of the rocket and it has it's first tin layers of paint.
I will not give much written comments but look at the pictures they will give you the information.




These ventilate the space between the hull and the A and B tank.



Numbering of the rocket fins, when the rocket is on the table ready to be fired the number one wing points in to the direction of a target like Maastricht or Remagen.

Gruss

Bert

#12 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von Stefan 12.03.2017 19:12

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@the rocketman

Looks nice Bert, also the "stressed Skin" I will watch the Report going on, Need the informations for my buildt...

#13 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von the rocketman 24.03.2017 20:27

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So here is the first building report of the TAKOM meillerwagen.

I hope you will enjoy this report on building the Meillerwagen, and find usable tips about the build and the necessary updates of this model to become a operational A-4 transporter and erector.
We start with the rear part of the vehicle the middle and rear axle with the Meiller steering construction


View over the rear axle and the Meiller stering system


The brakesystem of the middle axle, made the hose and pipe system for these pneumatic brakes


The piping for the electric cable to the tail-light.
And a side view of the Meiller steering system with the "Lenkstock" and "Gabelstuck"



Shows the way the Meiller-system is working, take a good look at the different angels of the centrelines of the vehicle and the
boogie and rear axle. This is modified it is not possible to do this with the model.


The "Lenkstock "and Gabelstuck" in resting position now the trailer can be towed from the rear, but at low speed because the pneumatic brakes will not work.
It is also possible to steer the Meillerwagen at this side by the use of the hand tow-bar.



The underside of the middle axle with the brakes and the pneumatic system of pipe and hoses.
For the hoses I did use the isolation of a very thin electric wire.


The leftside of the rear-axle with the numberplate tail-light part of the "Kfz Nachtmarschgerate"
TAKOM did not deliverer the correct tail-light so I had to look in my scrap box, also there is no numberplate.
Remember the Meillerwagen had only a "nachtmarschgerate" and no brake or numberplate light.
the cable was just two wires to the front of the vehicle.


This part is nor ready , I must make other details like the hand-brake cables but they are to delicate to mount them now.

Names of parts between "---------" are the original German names from the "Fz.Pos.No. 102" manual, the "A-4 Fibel" and other original German documents on the A-4 operations.
I will use the original German names for parts of the Meillerwagen in this building report


Greetings /Gruss

Bert

#14 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von Stefan 24.03.2017 20:44

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@the rocketman

Thanks a lot Bert, for this Report. I will have a special look on this, and get Inspiration too for my buildt.

#15 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von the rocketman 26.03.2017 12:55

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Here is a link to the A-4 Fibel gives a lot of info on the firing operation of the Rocket

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B28Rdpk...0h2NHp3UVk/view

Gruss

Bert

#16 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von DerManni 28.03.2017 08:20

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Toll, was Du hier an Zusatzarbeit reinsteckst.
Der Stressed-skin-Effekt wird dem Modell einiges zusätzlich geben.
Gruß,
Manni

#17 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von Matze 28.03.2017 12:20

Great Job, Thanks ... ich hoffe das sich mal ein Hersteller in Zukunft der A4/V2 im Masstab 1/32 annimmt, weil das eigentlich "Fliegendes Gerät" ist

#18 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von Mephisto 02.04.2017 12:08

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Sehr schöner Baufortschritt!
Allerding muß bei diesem Bausatz anscheinend viel nachgearbeitet werden.

Deine A4 mit der "stressed skin" sieht super aus, keine Frage! aber so eine A4 hatte doch keine Möglichkeit zu "altern", sie flog doch nur einmal!

#19 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von the rocketman 02.04.2017 12:34

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aber so eine A4 hatte doch keine Möglichkeit zu "altern", sie flog doch nur einmal!

Stimt genau !!


Dear mister Einstein,

Yes a A-4 did fly just once in it's live time, so brand-new from the factory at Mittelwerk to the launch site.
The rocket troops did call it the hot pancake method.

But what you see the "stressed skin" comes from the production method, used to produce the outer skin of the rocket.
The plates of the skin were welded on the frame by using the method of "Einzelpunktschweissen" point welding this process did bring so much heat in to the plate's that the skin did stretch

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This is a picture of a part of the "Heck" tail of the A-4 rocket taken just after production at Mittelwerk.
As you can see no flat "Oberfläche" surface, hope this answers your question

With kind regards

Bert

#20 RE: TAKOM's Meillerwagen with A-4 rocket & Hanomag SS-100 von the rocketman 12.04.2017 21:07

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So time for a new update of the Meillerwagen project.

Did start with the trailer build an specially the cleaning up of the tube's of the frame, after that there were the connection points of the box shape for the air-battery (part E77) these must be filled because there is no box on the Meillerwagen and will not be used.
Also the connection point on the tube frame for the toolbox (part E26/27) has to be filled, the box must be replaces with a scratch build or after-marked toolbox

After this job I did a dry fit of the tubular frame, to see if the outer tubes are straight if so you can glue the frame together except the beam of the cillinders.






The Meiller-trailer has a brake-system from Knorr Bremse Berlin, I will try to scratch that on this model. the rear boogie already has it's air-tube and hose.
I started with a update of both air-tanks.
The air tanks have connection points at both sides, but only one is used in the system. at one side of the tank is also a messing type plate (white plate)


Next was the construction of the Knorr regulator picture shows it under the spare wheel construction.



In the same time I did the update for the hydrolic oil tank and the fuel tank of the stationary VW engine these tanks had no connection points for the hydrolic pipes, and on the fuel-tank for the engine was no filling cap. The white line on the Fuel-tank is a seamed joint of the two tank halves.
Warning there are no brackets for the VW fuel tank take a look at the picture for the correct way to make them.



On the front-boogie the brake air-lines are on there place, and a handgrip is made on the fixating plate (part F43).
The front-boogie can rotate because I want to tow the trailer at the front end.



OK that's all for now.

Greetings-Gruss

Bert

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